I would hazard a guess that theyd be willing to wait a little longer if thats what it takes to get it. Then I became one of hundreds. Up and Vanishedairs Saturdays at 7 p.m. on Oxygen. I discovered this subreddit last night and noticed there is a lot of hate for Payne Lindsey. .). Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Of course, immediately after his arrest, Lindsey went to work, trying to get any information onRyan, now 32. I'd hate to have an attorney with such poor grammar. As Payne Lindseys younger brother, Mason Lindsey experienced the Up and Vanished investigation from the beginning. ", So according to Bo, Ryan killed Tara, and then asked him for help disposing the body, burning and burying it on his family's pecan orchard. Be sure to add rsvp@crimecon.com to your address book to ensure our emails don't go to spam. Brooke claimed Bohad confessed everything to her while they were broken up, thatRyan had murdered Tara and forced him to help cover it up. It turned out to be Bo's girlfriend, Brooke Sheridan. After a resounding outcry from residents and true crime enthusiasts following the case, the judge amended the gag order to apply to only law enforcement, the suspects, and a select few individuals. McDonald said that there had been anumber of instances of women being attackedby an unknown group of men. She had a strained relationship with her family and became a ward of the state at the age of 15. [7] With an early interest in investigative journalism, Lindsey was inspired to investigate the disappearance of beauty queen and school teacher Tara Grinstead,[9] a well-known cold case in Georgia. At age 23, his dad cut him off and he began focusing on creating and directing videos. She left everything she owns behind.. Kennedy-Onassis suspected that LBJ and a group of Texas businessmen were behind the 1964 assassination in Dallas, TX. And if there was, let's not cover that up. You ask again later, and you get a blank stare from them, and two days later on Wednesday they show you the body. Speaking of the podcast, Im curious to know how Payne has evaluated the role it played in Taras case. Then with the gag order, the answers just stopped coming.. Full-on sweaty palms, clumsy stammering, shrill pitch starstruck. Though Lindsey couldn't dive into what exactly that "stuff" entails, he seemed confident in the progress being made by the authorities. Such records are preserved by the agencies responsible for the arrests. Are the roles switched? Stedman has worked on a variety of film projects in Atlanta since her graduation. Entertainment Television, LLC A Division of NBCUniversal. Keeping a filter on everything that comes his way. [1] He is best known for co-creating and hosting the hit investigative journalist and true crime podcasts Up and Vanished and Atlanta Monster. It's obvious from Phil's tone something went South. Keenan confirmed she was at the party and told investigators that they drank wine and smoked marijuana together. [22] Tenderfoot TV is represented by United Talent Agency. "patiently waiting on that @masonramsey horses in the back remix" Check out the hottest fashion, photos, movies and TV shows! Imagine your roommate takes your truck out. Im looking forward to meeting listeners, seeing other podcasters whom I admire, finding out what Nancy Grace is like in person, he ends with a slight, but not disrespectful, chuckle. The SWORN podcast, presented by UP AND VANISHED, pulls back the curtain on the criminal justice system exposing the untold stories and hard truths behind major cases, wrongful convictions, controversial legislation, and more. . Residents demanded answers and justice for Tara and her family. Lindsey watched the show and realized that he wanted to do something similar. Everyone sets out to solve these things. As the gag order has kept new information from making its way to the people of Ocilla, the case might as well have frozen over again. Well also be recording a live episode so be sure to be there.. Over the course of the next few months, episodes dissected key pieces of evidence and looked into possible suspects (including Tara's ex-boyfriend, a former student who claimed to have an intimate relationship with her that she once called the cops on, a married man she was allegedly having an affair with, a man she went on a few dates with before her disappearance, etc.). Was there a way to have solved this 10 or 12 years ago? "I can't overanalyze everything someone like Catfish is telling me, because some of it is not even supposed to make any sense," Lindsey explained, adding that he thinks Catfish was trying to confuse him at times. Well, he proved it himself. Be the first to know about new speakers, sessions, and event locations. Why would I hurt the girl? he said. As Lindsey chronicled his investigation in real-time, week by week, in audio form, he ventured into a new field, podcasting. According to The Denver Post, Reisinger was searching for religious enlightenment. He shared evidence he found in her house all those months later and was openly critical of the GBI's investigation, rating it a 3 out of 10. . [30], In fall 2019, Payne Lindsey announced and released the first episode of a new podcast that features true stories with a fictional backdrop, Radio Rental. ET on Oxygen.Subscribe to PeopleTV http://bit.ly/SubscribePeopleTVPeopleTV is the free streaming networ. But everything changed when Duke and Dukes were taken into custody. Your source for entertainment news, celebrities, celeb news, and celebrity gossip. But back to that anonymous tipster that contacted the GBI, eventually leading them to arrestRyan. But the truth has proved elusive to this day. Vanished The first place I went was the police station. The memory lends a faint excitement to his voice. Payne suppressed the urge to celebrate and, with great effort, remained skeptical. "Kristal was going to report the rape to police or confront the men about it, and then she was murdered on or around July 14, when she went off the radar," he told Oxygen. Posted on Nov 29, 2018 Updated on May 21, 2021, 12:34 am CDT. So if we want the truth about what happened to Tara, its up to me, you, the public, true crime fans, even the podcast to demand those answers. "When she opened the door she had a tear-stained face," McDonald recalled. Then, in a separate close up picture, you could see the date written in pen on his palm," Lindsey said in episode 14. McDonald said this mysterious band of criminals was pretty good at hiding who they were. She didn't know any names, she said,because theyare "pretty good at hiding who they are. Host PHILIP HOLLOWAY, a defense attorney and former prosecutor with a background in law enforcement, not only digs into the legal aspects of these cases but the emotional consequences of their outcomes. From the Saguache County Sheriffs Office to podcaster Payne Lindsey, investigators have been trying to solve Reisingers disappearance for more than five years. and our Rest assured that he can, and plans to. By Mr. Keenan, a petition (accompanied by bill, Senate, No. It's the same story he would later tell police. So he had goals. Up and Vanished is produced by Tenderfoot TV, a story-driven media company based at Industrious at Ponce City Market, in Atlanta, Georgia. Thousands more have settled in the hills outside of town, somein commune-type compounds. But Taras family and the people of Ocilla have waited twelve years for justice. "There's a lot of stuff that didn't even make it into the last episode that has been happening just in the past few weeks, even yesterday and today." . Privacy Policy. Reisingers landlord Ara McDonald vividly recalled knocking on her tenants door to collect her months rent in early July. The file is the largest in GBI history, which means that the discovery process of copying, compiling, reviewing, and interpreting everything in it could take months or even years. Are you OK? She said, I dont really want to talk about it, but I went to a party and Im pretty sure that I was drugged and raped.'. Payne Lindsey is an American director, documentary filmmaker, Right Side of the Tree lead singer and podcast host. Justice is a finicky thing, and subjective.". While Payne was still conducting interviews and receiving information from anonymous sources, and had uncovered that bombshell information about the 2005 search, it felt like his time with the case was winding down. She had just bought groceries the day before, said Guana. Payne, however, was forced to leave the scene because Dean Fleck was screaming and fighting. (E! After helping his brother with his first case as much as possible, Lindsey transitioned into working as a producer, all while balancing classes for his bachelors degree in business. I was nervous because as you know, Im a podcast junkie, and Payne Lindsey has - perhaps inadvertently - reached the pinnacle of true crime podcasting with season one of Up and Vanished. ), "How do I know it was him? I wanted to put a spotlight on the community and pressure people to talk. Thanks, you're on the list! But this unidentified source also brought up another name that came up in the rumor millone Up and Vanished initially bleeped as this was an ongoing investigation. During season one's year-long journey, Payne, self-described "millennial podcaster,", played a major part in the arrest of Ryan Alexander Duke and Bo Dukes, those two men charged with the murder. This documentary attempts to separate fact from conspiracy theories to get to the truth. [15] This helped uncover previously unnoticed evidence which lead to the decade-old case being cracked and two arrests made. His voice perks up at the chance to discuss his upcoming session. Shortly after his twelfth episode, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation arrested a man named Ryan Alexander Duke "They were pretty much a package duo," an old friend of Ryan's told Lindsey in episode 14. Payne Lindsey: If the searched happened back in 2005, then according to the statute of limitations on the crime both committed, he may be able to get off Scott free. The GBI will try to convict Ryan Duke and wrap this up as quickly as possible without a lot of media circus. . That question is the reason why, when Payne was researching cases to feature on his new podcast, Taras was the one he was most drawn to. Even if there were so many doubts Payne still had, his real-time search had some to a standstill. The events of the next 12 months turned Tara Grinsteads case into one of the biggest crime stories of the year. Hes talking about the mysterious disappearance of beloved high school teacher Tara Grinstead. I remember in UAV he seemed a little arrogant, like when he implied that the murder was solved because of him, but thats the only thing I noticed. Otten died from a heroin overdose on May 16, 2020, so no one will ever hear his side of the story. There wasn't a trial start date in sight. Maybe between Payne's divorce and new Oxygen stardom, there was no room for other wanna be stars in the Tenderfoot limelight. This seemed insane, and right or wrong, it seemed to make sense that a Gag Order would be in place to prevent that from becoming public. Tara came over to her house unannounced, and what transpired that day stuck with her forever. Payne Lindsey: She described to me the last time she had seen Tara, just a week before she went missing. And Payne was right in the middle of it. Finding Payne: How he reached millions of listeners covering Georgia's crime of the century. Payne Lindsey decided to make a podcast from the coldest case he could find - and now two arrests have finally been made in a 12-year-old murder. And Paynes almost constant presence in sleepy Ocilla, Georgia certainly set people talking. Lindsey selected a missing-person case from his home state, Georgia, and embarked on a journey as an amateur investigator. Payne's curiosity cracked the case, but will he now be able to officially solve it? Lindsey was immediately intrigued and posted on a forum about her case on a site called Websleuthsand even more intrigued when he received a voicemail soon after, officially kicking off his journey. I do wonder what happened btwn those 2. Its important that we pick the right case, go into it the right way, and give it our all again. When the news broke, it crushed that tiny little sliver of hope. "I'll go to my grave believing that somebody had something to do with her disappearance," Ervin added. for the murder of Tara Grinstead. They had basically confessed, telling several people over the years about what had happened, and no one did anything. Can Payne Lindsey ever top this? Well, two years and 240 million downloads later, Lindsey is one of the most well-known true crime podcast host and producers. "I think we've done an amazing job of. Were putting together a documentary series based on the story and Up and Vanished, he begins with a deep breath that tells me theres a lot of information coming my way. She told me people had drugged and raped her.. If theyre worried about speculation or rumors, the gag order only perpetuates that, Payne explains, a little frustrated. Paynes investigation reignited a fervor that lay dormant for twelve years. But it still brought the flow of information to grinding halt. Maybe it will, maybe it wont., (Informants note: I pressed him for details on his shortlist of cases, so he compromised and divulged two names. They talked about Payne, they talked about the podcast, but most importantly, they began talking about Taras disappearance again. Home schooled for most of his life with his younger brother Cade, he balances much of his time between his passions for dance, music, acting, and photography. . But, Lindsey knows that Catfish is a dead end when it comes to finding out what happened to Kristal. She didn't just take off and not come back. There was "no sign" that she had planned to pack up and leave, he said. Theres no science to it. Somebody in this town knows and they're too much of a coward to come forward.". [22], In early 2018, in partnership with HowStuffWorks,[25] Lindsey launched Atlanta Monster, a new podcast about the infamous Atlanta Child Murders, which occurred between 1979 - 1981 with over 25 victims murdered in Atlanta. But the highlight of his stint on the discussion board had to be this. I had to be ahead of the curve and be the first to get information, scrap some things I was looking into that werent so important, and completely change up what I was doing. [16], After Up and Vanished, together with his business partner Donald Albright,[17][18] Lindsey launched the content creation company Tenderfoot TV which is based in Atlanta. With over 150 million downloads, Up and Vanished propelled Grinsteads case into the mainstream media, uncovering new evidence that helped to crack the 11-year-old cold case in early 2017 and lead to two arrests. Her medicine was on the fridge and being used." The two eventually broke up, but they happily co-parented Kasha together. Left: Kevin Leland/Facebook; Right: Overlander.tv/YouTube. Over 3 years two newly ordained curates in a row had locks put on their doors, reported Xxxxxx use of rent to Keenan and he moved them both. Another thing that comes next for Payne: CrimeCon. The day before the arrest, it seemed like I was the only person reporting on or looking into the case. [7] Lindsey did not have access to police files, so instead scoured through old news articles and online forums to hunt out possible leads. Despite these hardships, she attended Western State College in Gunnison, Colorado, then studied psychology and sociology at Western Colorado University, where she even taught a course. So why did he come forward now? A collaboration from the Tenderfoot TV team with the HowStuffWorks team. Also, the dudes on Small Town Murder have been mentioning a murder podcaster they dont like, a journalist whos trying to solve murders. But aforensic psychologist Doug Miller theorized in episode 15 thatRyan may have had a crush on his former teacher, and a possible unhealthy obsession with teacher figures. In 2019 Catfish John Keenan was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon and possession of meth in Raleigh. Podcaster Payne Lindsey admits he couldn't have planned a better promotional push for his new show about UFOs than the current news cycle. Kristal Reisinger was born on Nov. 18, 1987, in Phoenix, Arizona. Reisinger said she would consider McDonalds advice to call the police. crimeHQ Cold Case Club: Who Killed Tanya Frazier? After performing over 300 shows on Broadway Keean moved . Actor: Alita: Battle Angel. Albright has spent the last 20 years working on a variety of entertainment projects with notable artists including, Jay-Z, OutKast, Usher, DJ Khaled, and many more. The same source claimed he was also on suicide watch again after his 2017 arrest. I thought maybe in doing that some truth would come out.. A staff writer for All Thats Interesting, Marco Margaritoff has also published work at outlets including People, VICE, and Complex, covering everything from film to finance to technology. Again, we come back to that initial Google search, with Payne specifically looking for a local case tomake his investigation easier, he searched for an unsolved mystery in Georgia, and landed on the missing persons case of Tara, who had been missing for over 10 years in Ocilla, Georgia. Peloquin told police that he took care of Reisinger for two weeks because he had never seen her that scared. Then she vanished. 4) Introducing "High Strange" with Payne Lindsey. McDonald reported Reisinger missing on July 30, but Saguache County Sheriff Dan Warwick initially concluded Reisinger had just left town of her own accord. He also had several private conversations with other people on the message boards, where he would answer their questions. I thought that maybe in doing that, some truth would emerge. They began to suspect foul play. (Remember when the policesaid Ryan was never on their radar during the press conference?). Were sorting through hundreds of emails people have sent us with suggestions and, unfortunately, theres no shortage. Follow along as host Payne Lindsey, a filmmaker turned amateur investigator, examines old case evidence and re-interviews persons of interest. It became a special medium for people to discuss the case, listen to it together, and talk about their theories. In Arkansas, law enforcement reports generated after an individual is apprehended and taken into custody by the police are called arrest records. Its been intense. "I do know that they've been actively investigating this behind the scenes, and following up on every relevant lead there is," Lindsay explained. "This is someone with a tremendous, magnetic personality, and the kids just love her.". [33] He is the cousin of 98.5 The Sports Hub radio host Rich Shertenlieb. Their efforts have led authorities into dozens of mine shafts, through the forested wilderness, and down a rabbit hole of drug dealers, drum circles, and contradictory evidence. With Robert Goldberg, John F. Kennedy, Robert Dallek, Lee Harvey Oswald. But none would come. With Kristanna Loken, Noah Dalton Danby, Stephen Lobo, Sean Owen Roberts. According to E! The disappearance of Tarain 2005 rocked the small town of Ocilla, which has a population just over 3,000 people. While the first season of Up and Vanished concluded in July 2017, Payne and his team's investigation will pick up once again in Oxygen's new Up and Vanished special, airing Sunday, Nov. 18, which will follow his citizen sleuthing and give podcast listeners their first look at many of the voices they listened to for hours. It just amazed me that no one knew what happened, he recalls. Introducing "High Strange" with Payne Lindsey. Its been a roller-coaster ride, he answers with what sounds like part bewilderment and part well-earned pride. Wikimedia CommonsKristal Reisinger disappeared in a town of fewer than 150 people. Soon after the arrest, a judge issued a gag order that prevented nearly everyone from speaking about what they knew. Nancy Redman: I looked out the window and I saw her standing out in my yard, and so I went out to see her, "Hi, Tara." But to this day, nobody knows what happened to Kristal Reisinger. Oh, and just before his arrest in 2017, he was spending time on theUp and Vanisheddiscussion boards, hosting Q&As under the name "AAA," and he continued to speak out online following his arrest when he posted bail (violating the court-ordered gag order. Never in a million years.". Season 1 of Up and Vanished explored the 2005 disappearance of beauty queen and high school teacher Tara Grinstead from her home in Ocilla, Georgia. "She was extremely distraught, and I said, 'What is going on? From the start,Payne, 30, admitted he was just "looking for cold cases and other unsolved mysteries" to explore after the unexpected success of Serial and Making a Murderer, which lead to a tsunami wave of true crime-related content. SD.2101. Both arent my favorite podcast but I dont mind them. It is widely assumed that . Both aren't my favorite podcast but I don't mind them. Unmasked: A True Crime Syndicate/Facebook. However, it was a weird place thatPayne had an unexpected connection to: His grandmother lived in Tifton, which was just a half hour away from Ocilla, and wouldn't you know it, one of her friends was one of the last people to see Tara alive. Im most excited about what he says next. "White rabbits," as Dr. Godwin called them, were not in short supply as the investigation unfolded. But the special will pick up where the podcast left off, which was with the arrest of two men who plead not guilty and are still awaiting trial. In 2018, Payne Lindsey tackled Reisinger's disappearance in the second season of his hit podcast Up and Vanished, and now the Oxygen series of the same name has returned to Crestone to seek. @paynelindsey. "Veggie burgers and almond milk. Im not one to take no for an answer if I can help it, he says with conviction. She also claimed he had told his ex-wife and an old army buddy about the murder, and that he had taken her out to the spot in the pecan orchard where they burned her body. They were excited to have some answers for the first time in years. Payne Lindsey is an American director, documentary filmmaker, Right Side of the Tree lead singer and podcast host. I think I accomplished what I set out to do and that feels good. "But I hope the renewed interest in the podcast at least helped create an environment that encouraged the sharing of truth throughout the whole community.". Soon, Reisingers good friend Rodney Ervin and ex-boyfriend Guana arrived in Crestone to search for her. Forgive me though, its been a while since Ive listened to UAV so I might be forgetting something he did. In small towns, theres rarely much to do except talk. Up and Vanished is based on the hit investigative podcast of the same name with over 340 million downloads and focuses on new cases of missing individuals, as Payne Lindsey and his team of investigative podcasters search for answers to help the victims' families gain a sense of closure. But if you go into it with a goal and good intentions, good things can happen.. Guana said Reisinger found Denver so toxic that in 2015 she decided to leave Kasha in his care and venture to Crestone, a town at the foot of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains with a population of 141. [11] Lindsey began podcasting full time once Up and Vanished increased in popularity. Were also looking ahead to season two of the podcast where we want to tackle another unsolved disappearance. But what I did know was that I could stir things up. As for Up and Vanished, Lindsey and his team decided it was time to take a break and let some of the dust they kicked up settle . 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