Drew - Good to hear from you again. Jan 19, 2010 #5 HiggyDude Tele-Holic Joined Sep 8, 2006 I follow a very simple rule: if the decal represents a sticker or vinyl graphic on the 1:1, I don't clear over it. Ok, in regards to race cars. By logging into your account, you agree to our. Contact Us - It was intended to be polished out and will be a bit dull no matter what. Fill a spray bottle with clean room temperature water. I just don't like any edge at all. Wipe-on poly, in both gloss AND satin, has been fine for me over two different types of water slide decals. The process caused a few bubbles, but those quickly dissipated. BTW, no that isn't my model, that pic came from the Tamiya USA site. Does Learning Jazz Melodies without Understanding the Theory Teach Me Anything. If you are in a hurry to complete your decal project we recommend using Rustoleum 2X Clear Gloss or Krylon Triple Thick Crystal Clear. A handy tip for curing sealants faster is to use a hair dryer (especially during winter), just be sure to hold the hair dryer at a safe distance from the paper, moving the heat evenly across the paper. Please make sure to request a test decal sheet and apply and test on scrap surfaces. A lighter body and a blonde finish using shellac, Refinishing my Squier Jaguar (brushing nitro). Company states it should not be submerged in water as the product will break down. My problem with that is that the edge of the decal becomes very pronounced on a model and that does not look correct, even if you trim the decal very carefully. From my experience, about 12 coats is target(assuming lacquer). tooth; Mar 17, 2023; Techniques; Replies 5 Views 160. I remedied this by a healthy coat of clear gloss enamel over the kit after the decals dried completely. February 1, 2010 in Tips, Tricks, and Tutorials. General Discussion. If you dont thin out the first coat it will dissolve the decal. You must first apply 2-3 very thin mist coats over the decal; allowing it to dry each time. Decal was intact and durable. It's water based so won't mind a little bit of residual moisture in the decals, and it dries hard in a short time. All customers get FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped . I get UV print on powder coated enclosures, and don't do any painting or clear coating. After I painted a single coat of white on the JACCS Accord and scrapped the decals, I painted 4 separate colors over the white, leaving a "bare" white strip between each one (similar to the JACCS theme). If not applied properly the decal may scratch, rip or tear during application. The problem is the transfers will not be applied until after my base coat is fully dry, and trying to sand or scuff the area around the decal can be very tricky. Most 2k systems work if applied correctly. It is recommended that you always test a decal on scrap until you know what method works for you. This eliminates that problem. Cut out decal in square/rectangular/circular pattern using a sharp pair of scissors leaving at least - between the decal print and cutting edge. 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Decreased temperatures may call for longer cure times. I put a light coat of dewaxed shellac over the decal prior to applying the wipe on poly just to be safe. The decal is "fixed" under the lacquer and seems to stay fine with no flaking. Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 02:32:40 PM . Your choice and good luck because this topic has been beat to death for as long as I have been building. Products may be submerged in water for short periods of time and should be able to withstand outside elements for a good amount of time. You must log in or register to reply here. Yes, Cricut vinyl will stick to stained wood but there is one tip that may make your project a bit easier. Application surface should be as smooth as possible. It lets the decal slide around with ease and allows it to 'settle' into textured/uneven paint jobs. If you spray wet coats too early, the decal may bleed. blot out all water, & take your time. 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I am trying to learn the best method for applying clear coat over water slide tranfers. alexzogh Well-Known Member TRF Supporter. Every time I have see this come up, there are a lot of strong arguments for both sides. You do not have to seal it again before putting on the epoxy, but you could if you really wanted. the sponsorship decals (has the numbers, sponsors, etc) i plan on putting on top of the clear coat. Once the first coat has dried you may then apply a standard coat. Discover more about the small businesses partnering with Amazon and Amazons commitment to empowering them. Flex Seal Clear sealing results on Hayes Paper Co Inkjet Waterslide Decal Paper. Water decals need a smooth surface for them to stick on. Some surfaces react to polyurethane differently to others and you may end up damaging your sticker. Report. Thread starter DabCat; Start date Sep 11, 2021; Prev. We cannot guarantee the performance of any other clear coat. my plans are to do clear over the colorful blocks. The Decal was intact and durable and applied seamlessly. Generally, a clear coat paint is sprayed on the sticker surface for applying a clear coat. Now, the numbers are separate so they could look different, (not as shiny), & it would be accurate. Using a paper towel or soft brush, carefully dab away excess water. K'Tesh OpenRocket Chuck Norris TRF Supporter Joined Mar 27, 2013 Messages 20,896 Reaction score 12,169 Sep 11, 2021 #3 +1 on Future Floor Wax. Author: www.diystompboxes.com . Joined Sep 30, 2010 . Once applied the whole car would be finished a few days later with the same Halfords clear or Future. If you want your model to look "real," you wouldn't apply clear over those decals and bury them under a mile of clear topcoat, because that's NOT how it was done on the original. The colour comes out dry and you can cut out the water slide decal and soak in water immediately, with absolutely NO colour running at all, no need to cover with a clear lacquer before using either. Does anyone have experience applying wipe on poly over a water slide decal? And finally the idea that decals need a clearcoat to "protect" them is nonsense. You can post now and register later. The waterslide provides the perfect zero-profile finish that can only add to the beauty of your product. Rinse debris off first with a spray of water. They all used pretty much the same technique: A couple of coats of clear over the decaled body, Sand down the clear with 1200-1500 grit to remove decal edge prominence and smooth the surface overall (the finish gets very dull again), A laborious process of using rubbing compound to bring up the shine, under and i use automotive clears with no problems. Mar 15, 2020 #10 Captain Nutslot Friend of Leo's Well I intend on using clear nitro lacquer to finish the neck, and dont know how that will interact with a decal. My method is. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Carefully paint the varnish over the sticker with a clean paintbrush, using smooth, even strokes. It is recommended that you wait 24 hours for any remaining moisture to evaporate. Dress up your Guitar Headstock with Waterslide Decals, Custom Cosplay and Prop Waterslide Decals, Custom Guitar Headstock Waterslide Decals, Custom Miniature Gaming Waterslide Decals. You may moisten the application surface with water first to assist you in decal placement after application. yes, thanks! Multiple, thats MULTIPLE light coats of clear then wet sanding with 600grit will eventually level edges out. Please keep in mind that sealants react differently depending on humidity and weather so we always recommend you follow the manufacturers cure times or run a test to see what works best in your environment. as far as trying to use paint to paint on what would be decals, that's more than likely going to give you thicker edges than the decals. I've always thought you had to use white decal paper with dark backgrounds. I suppose if you wanted to go over the top, you could clear coat the car with gloss and then over spray the decal with a matte or semigloss finish. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. If they are not cured for long enough you may get a slimy cracked decal and the inks may run when you submerge your decal in water. Our waterslide adhesive activated well and the decal slid well off the backing and was intact and durable making it great for use. From what I've seen, clearcoat over decals isn't necessary for protection- they seem to hold up as well with or without a clear coat. Applying clear coat to decals is a normal part of my business. I put a light coat of dewaxed shellac over the decal prior to applying the wipe on poly just to be safe. There is always a sheet of backing paper to which everything else is attached. You must log in or register to reply here. You must first apply 2-3 very thin mist coats over the decal; allowing it to dry each time. My experience only applies to Tamiya TS-13 clear over Tamiya lacquers, Testors lacquers and HOK (the REAL HOK! Yes they will. This rendered the decal unusable. window so shouldnt have to worry about adhesion.just base as you normaly would but allow extra time for your base to degass.i usually wait at least 3-4 hrs, and have never had a problem.apply your decals and make sure there totally dry before you clear.you can hit them lightly with a heat gun after you squigy them but i usuallt just wait an additional hour or so and clear as normal.just be carefull especially on your first coat i usually ease up a bit on my first coat at least on your decal area.it will run especially on the bottom of letters.by the way this is the way i do them and same as oem and have never had one turn milky.i have heard of others have problems with the decals lifting/blisters and such and trapped solvents could possibly have the milky effect too. And as far as decals that are non race car decals ill do as Raul_Perez and others on this forum, spray the decal, let it dry, wet sand with 2000, spray again, let dry wetsand repeat until there are no edges. This will soften the decal and make it more flexible when applying, eliminating air bubbles and giving you that painted on look. I've never had a problem like you describe either, but I have had some thin decals that have been dinged with the simple touch of a fingernail. Mar 19, 2023. neil_w. i dont understand why you would want to sand/scuff around the decal,and ive never heard they must be applied over a shiny surface.most base coats have a 24 hr. Decal was submerged in water for two minutes and 30 seconds and was in tack and durable. 5900 Balcones Drive, Suite 4950, Austin, Texas, 78731. If you trim the decals with your hobby knife, you are creating a raised edge. After the first wet sanding, (go very light with the initial sanding), you'll see shiny and matt looking areas, the shiny areas are still low . Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot] and 74 guests. Oklahomawhere the wind comes sweeping down the plain! I am now doing my own paint job based on that color scheme. Aug 05, 2008, 02:00 PM. TDPRI, short for Telecaster Discussion Page Reissue, is the leading online community and marketplace for Telecaster guitars. Microscale Micro Set* Then build it up to it's final depth and begin the polishing. I wait a day or so then I lay on full coats over the entire headstock. We were not able to get in contact with the company to get information on their recommended applications. Water Slide & Rub Transfer Water slide decals; A pain to work with. Once the decal was placed in the water all decals were tested for activation, quality and durability every 30 seconds. All rights reserved. Microscale Liquid Decal Film* After you have sealed the decal with thin coats you may apply a heavier coat if you want. Your link has been automatically embedded. Date Submitted: 02/19/2019 01:17 AM . Free shipping on orders over $30 - Continental USA only, Do all clear sealant sprays perform equally well on waterslide paper? If you are really looking for a professional look, consider stepping up to UV printing. 2022 - 2023 Times Mojo - All Rights Reserved If you are applying your decal to an irregular surface and want to make the decal conform and adhere better; lightly brush on a coat of Microscale Micro Set to the application surface before applying the decal. That's the one I'm working on now. Be aware that although the clear coat over the decal is sealing the edges nicely, nothing but the sugar (sugar is the water soluble adhesive used with waterslides) backing of the decal is securing it to the box elsewhere. At least - between the decal was submerged in water as the will... 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